Alibaba - The Story (April 2014)

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ChinaSucks said:

Talk cock lah. With China banning just about everything and everything Western, he has no competition but monopoly and cronyism.

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Totally agree with you... Those rich people are all fuckers!!!

Hero are those sit behind the pc or mobile phone KPKB on people's success!!!

Re: Ali Baba: Biggest IPO in History at US$25 bil

frenchbriefs said:

nothing but bullshit...alibaba is majority owned by foreigners....but the company is still 100% controlled and run by the government.....the shareholders have no say in how the company's run.

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Another hero from SBF... However can you stop talking so much an start a company bigger than alibaba???

Re: Ali Baba: Biggest IPO in History at US$25 bil

frenchbriefs said:

nothing but bullshit...alibaba is majority owned by foreigners....but the company is still 100% controlled and run by the government.....the shareholders have no say in how the company's run.

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Another hero from SBF... However can you stop talking so much an start a company bigger than alibaba???

Re: Ali Baba: Biggest IPO in History at US$25 bil


Jack Ma Yun 40 yrs ago, with his 2 siblings in Hangzhou, West Lake.


A young Jack in Hangzhou.


In 1988 after he graduated he became a English teacher in an university.
He quickly became popular with his students.
His salary US14 monthly.

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By JURO OSAWA

Updated Sept. 28, 2014 9:34 p.m. ET

Alibaba continues on its acquisition spree after raising $25 billion its recent U.S. initial public offering.

Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. has agreed to buy a 15% stake in a Beijing-based company that develops technology software for the hotel industry for $457 million, as the Chinese e-commerce giant continues on its acquisition spree after its recent U.S. initial public offering that raised $25 billion.

Beijing Shiji Information Technology Co. disclosed Alibaba's investment in its filing with the Shenzhen Stock Exchange. The deal is the first major investment by Alibaba after China's biggest e-commerce company went public earlier this month on the New York Stock Exchange in the largest IPO in history.

The alliance with Beijing Shiji could help Alibaba's travel and hotel booking business. Last year, Alibaba invested in Chinese travel website Qyer.com as part of efforts to beef up the offerings of its own travel-booking site, Taobao Travel.

The latest deal follows a string of acquisitions and investments in the past year by Alibaba, as the company continues to broaden its operations beyond online shopping to attract more consumers.
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Re: Ali Baba: Biggest IPO in History at US$25 bil

Baimi said:

Jack Ma Yun 40 yrs ago, with his 2 siblings in Hangzhou, West Lake.

A young Jack in Hangzhou.

In 1988 after he graduated he became a English teacher in an university.
He quickly became popular with his students.
His salary US14 monthly.

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a tiong becoming a english teacher ahahaahahahahahaha.

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frenchbriefs said:

a tiong becoming a english teacher ahahaahahahahahaha.

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No Beida/Qinghua degree, no money, no political connections. An oddball success story in China.

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The man leading China’s online shopping giant to America

Ma’s Alibaba, China’s online-shopping giant, completed the largest initial public offering in history–$25 billion–on the New York Stock Exchange. The shares started trading on Sept. 19, and the value of the company exceeded that of Facebook, Coca-Cola or IBM.

• CLAIMS TO FAME

Fifteen years ago, Ma, a former English teacher, started Alibaba in an apartment in the Chinese city of Hangzhou. Today Alibaba is the undisputed champion of online retailing, handling twice as much merchandise as Amazon. An indifferent student, Ma built his empire without the top diploma or political connections usually needed to succeed in China.

• BIGGEST CHALLENGES

Ma will be under pressure from his new investors to deliver ever larger profits. He must expand outside his home market while also fighting off opponents at home. Chinese Internet giants Baidu and Tencent and property group Wanda recently joined forces to start a rival e-commerce firm.

• BIGGEST THREAT

China’s authoritarian rulers still wield tremendous control over business. A big wild card in Alibaba’s future will be Ma’s ability to stay in the good graces of the Communist Party while building trust with consumers in the West.

• BIGGEST CRITIC

The investor Peter Thiel passed on Alibaba’s IPO, arguing that a bet on the company was ultimately a bet on Beijing–with the political uncertainty that implied.

• CAN HE DO IT?

Ma has a proven track record of competing with global e-commerce titans–and winning. He’s shoved aside eBay and Amazon in China. And with his post-IPO war chest, Ma has the financial muscle to invest heavily and acquire other firms. The question is, Will he shop wisely?

–MICHAEL SCHUMAN

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Published on Sep 26, 2014
You might have heard lately about the Chinese e-commerce company Alibaba. Think of it as a giant combination of Amazon, Ebay, and PayPal. Last week, it had the biggest IPO (initial Public Offering) in history on the New York Stock Exchange, raising 25 billion dollars. On its first day of trading, Alibaba's stock prices shot up almost 40%. By the end of the day, its market value exceeded 240 billion dollars, making it the second largest internet company, and making its founder Jack Ma the richest person in China. So Alibaba seems like a great investment, right? But like almost everything involving China, it's complicated. On this episode of China Uncensored, find out why Alibaba might be a risky investment

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The article said it shoved aside eBay and amazon in china....yeah right....as if there was a level playing field.
All the propaganda that is being churned out praising this richest Prc china to the sky is laughable.

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the biggest ipo in the world to scam idiots of their money.....for example broadcast.com bought by yahoo after ipo for 6 billion....went busto less than 10 years later.

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frenchbriefs said:

the biggest ipo in the world to scam idiots of their money.....for example broadcast.com bought by yahoo after ipo for 6 billion....went busto less than 10 years later.

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Seems like the commies are beating the capitalists at their own (con-)game.

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Jon Stewart Skewers Wall Street Over Alibaba: ‘The Communists Just Beat Us At Capitalism’

DAVE SMITH TECH
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It’s been one big celebration for Alibaba this past week, after the company’s historic IPO on Friday. And “The Daily Show’s” Jon Stewart is here to put it all in perspective.

As Stewart points out in his segment that aired Wednesday night, Alibaba, despite its massive $2 billion in profit last quarter, doesn’t actually sell things. It simply connects buyers and sellers.

“So it’s Craigslist with better graphics, is that what it is?” Stewart asks.

Stewart wasn’t shy about pointing out the potential issues with Alibaba’s structure.

“Do you like Amazon but are sick of its reliability? The sense that, at any moment, you could order the new Dan Brown novel but instead be sent a box of discontinued Chinese gopher enemas? Try Alibaba!” Stewart mused.

During the segment, Stewart tries to “call Alibaba” to buy some shares of Alibaba, but is surprised to learn that you can’t actually buy Alibaba.

Alibaba is headquartered in China; what shareholders are actually buying are shares in Alibaba Group Holding Limited, which was incorporated in the Cayman Islands.

“So I paid for a share for something on an island, and I don’t own it?” Stewart asks. “You’re selling us a time share, is that what it is? A time share in a company — without giving us a free vacation to sit through your pitch?”

At that point, Stewart puts down his phone and wonders aloud why Alibaba, a Chinese company, is doing its stock offering here in the US. As it turns out, Alibaba avoided an IPO in Hong Kong because you need certain types of management and corporate governance structures in order to be listed on the stock market in that country, and Alibaba apparently felt it couldn’t fulfill those requirements, so it took its show to the US.

“Oh I see. The company’s trading in the US to escape the more stringent regulatory environment of China. China. The country whose motto is ‘Hey, let’s put lead paint in everything, including this flag,’” Stewart said.

Of course, Alibaba’s IPO was a tremendous success in the US. Its shares soared $30 above the expected IPO price, and it’s already the fourth-most valuable technology company in the world — bigger than Facebook, IBM, Oracle, Samsung, and Amazon.

Stewart closed on this note:

“So let me get this straight: With Alibaba, we have an internet startup that makes no tangible product with a hugely inflated IPO that was in the United States only due to a Cayman Island loophole that avoids regulations in that company’s home country. Do you understand what this means? The Communists just beat us at capitalism.”



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Cayman Islands and shell holding companies... sounds like another elaborate Tiong fraud.