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700 documented proof that Cannabis is a very effective medicine...

Sperminator

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Although sometimes soft drugs can be used as medicine... it can be easily abused, just like POPPY FLOWER, the black sap can be used to reduce pain while chewing on the black sap... but it's being abused, and converted into cocaine. morphine.

worst, as these form of soft drugs that are not easily available, their street value is high, and giving it another opportunity for drug dealers to supply.

so... if you are truly thinking of soft drug medical treatments, based on cannabis, marijuana, etc... there is only one country I can think of... AMSTERDAM, Holland.
 

Mikeferdy

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Not wanting to sound like a rant, but I am very sick of hearing "It can be abused". Got several rebuttal to this statement but for the sake of argument,

Can give me the definition of "abuse"?
 

Sperminator

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Not wanting to sound like a rant, but I am very sick of hearing "It can be abused". Got several rebuttal to this statement but for the sake of argument,

Can give me the definition of "abuse"?

Perhaps you can try GINGER... Ginger is very effective against many ailments. It is so abundant that people have forgotten it's medical properties.

Back in survival training days... our trainer says.... if you are sick, look for this plant... GINGER PLANT.
 

Mikeferdy

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Perhaps you can try GINGER... Ginger is very effective against many ailments. It is so abundant that people have forgotten it's medical properties.

Back in survival training days... our trainer says.... if you are sick, look for this plant... GINGER PLANT.

Actually ya, Ginger is a very useful health plant because it is full of turmeric and Curcumin that has many medicinal benefits...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turmeric

But back to the original topic,
aside from the "abuse" argument which is quite weak, the fact is there are people who are suffering and dying right now in our hospitals... And those terminally ill patients are not really taken care of and just given morphine everyday...

If Cannabis can give them a chance to survive or at least lessen their suffering, why are we denying them this plant for the sake of a few who would "abuse" it?

Save a life or prevent "possible abuse"?
 

Sperminator

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Actually ya, Ginger is a very useful health plant because it is full of turmeric and Curcumin that has many medicinal benefits...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turmeric

But back to the original topic,
aside from the "abuse" argument which is quite weak, the fact is there are people who are suffering and dying right now in our hospitals... And those terminally ill patients are not really taken care of and just given morphine everyday...

If Cannabis can give them a chance to survive or at least lessen their suffering, why are we denying them this plant for the sake of a few who would "abuse" it?

Save a life or prevent "possible abuse"?

ABUSE. from definitions of www.dictionary.com
a·buse   [v. uh-byooz; n. uh-byoos] Show IPA verb, a·bused, a·bus·ing, noun
verb (used with object)
1.to use wrongly or improperly; misuse: to abuse one's authority.
2.to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight.
3.to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile; malign.
4.to commit sexual assault upon.
5.Obsolete . to deceive or mislead.
6.wrong or improper use; misuse: the abuse of privileges.
7.harshly or coarsely insulting language: The officer heaped abuse on his men.
8.bad or improper treatment; maltreatment: The child was subjected to cruel abuse.
9.a corrupt or improper practice or custom: the abuses of a totalitarian regime.
10.rape or sexual assault.

actually, all the while, our health is always taken care by ourselves. No one truly forces any food into our mouths, no one can force you to think in a certain way... in short, no one can harm you physically, mentally, intellectually, not unless you choose to.

So, with my above argument statement, our disease in our body, may it be physical or mental, it is caused by ourselves alone.

Once we have disease in our body, I would bet that at least 90% or more people would want a quick cure.

Disease can be cured through our human body immune system, and diet and rest, free from pressures is an important part of recovery....

If the people who are dying and are suffering in our hospitals have severe illness, which is beyond the scope of the hospital's treatment, reducing the pain until the person dies is the option... morphine is given... this is a very humane way to reduce pain...

Actually, all the while, no body forces anyone to go into Hospital for treatments.

Our health is not other people's responsibilities, but our very own.

Cannabis appears to be an alternative drug to heal... however, in Singapore, this drug is controlled, and not easily available.

Have to consider countries that allow Cannabis.

Just my take, and Cannabis may not be the ONLY treatment... sometimes, it's all about Holistic Treatment... Mental, Physical, Environment, Food, etc...
 

seesuatah

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Take all you want OD on it and blood will starts to spew out from your nose.

Who is stopping you to kill yourselves?
 

Mikeferdy

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ABUSE. from definitions of www.dictionary.com
a·buse   [v. uh-byooz; n. uh-byoos] Show IPA verb, a·bused, a·bus·ing, noun
verb (used with object)
1.to use wrongly or improperly; misuse: to abuse one's authority.
2.to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight.

5.Obsolete . to deceive or mislead.
6.wrong or improper use; misuse: the abuse of privileges.

I omitted out "abuse" that is not related to substances are are left with these.

Now comes the question, the definitions you give assumes that a substance was invented for a particular purpose but someone "abuse" it by using is other than what was intended...

So who gets to define the use of a plant? The government? Do we allow the government to govern us how we use a plant?


ANyway yea, most of the chronic illness facing Singaporeans needs to be treated holistically... Diabetes, heart complications, cancer, etc cannot be treated by eating a medicine and see the doctor again in 2 weeks... Need a whole body treatment to cure people of the illness...

But like I mentioned earlier, Cannabis is a very powerful medicine and could significantly help with the healing... It would be like trying to fix a computer without using a screw driver... it is possible but it will be hard and slow...
 

Kinana

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Marijuana is opposed for two reasons.

1. It threatens modern western medicine.
2. It has the effect of opening up the memories of mind control victims who use them. The illuminatti don't like that.
 

Agoraphobic

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Marijuana is opposed for two reasons.

1. It threatens modern western medicine.
2. It has the effect of opening up the memories of mind control victims who use them. The illuminatti don't like that.

Spot On!!!

Cheers!

ps. And unlike processed drugs like heroin/morphine (from opium) and cocaine (from coca), pot is a very cheap drug, it can be grown in pots in your balcony, with only soil, water and sunlight.
 

Agoraphobic

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Take all you want OD on it and blood will starts to spew out from your nose.

Who is stopping you to kill yourselves?

I do not know of anyone who has overdosed from pot before. If you smoke that much, you will probably be induced to fall into a deep sleep before that happens happens because the body's tolerance level will be reached, and will react to that before the "overdose" stage is reached.

Cheers!
 

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Take all you want OD on it and blood will starts to spew out from your nose.

Who is stopping you to kill yourselves?

Blood will spew out from nose ? Whahahaaa you are making me laugh .. Go and read more before you spew nonsense from your mouth :wink:
 

Ash007

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I agree, anything can be abused, including water and air. Too much of anything, abuse can cause no matter how inert you think it is. The key is control, how much you need, if you need it, after you have used it, can you stop using. Everyone is different, so each pain tolerance is different as well. As long as it does not harm you or others there is no point harping on banning is the correct way etc etc.

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ANyway yea, most of the chronic illness facing Singaporeans needs to be treated holistically... Diabetes, heart complications, cancer, etc cannot be treated by eating a medicine and see the doctor again in 2 weeks... Need a whole body treatment to cure people of the illness...

But like I mentioned earlier, Cannabis is a very powerful medicine and could significantly help with the healing... It would be like trying to fix a computer without using a screw driver... it is possible but it will be hard and slow...
 

BuiKia

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Some blunt advice for the young, male fans of marijuana: You may want to kill that joint and clutch your crotch -- self-check style, that is.

Scientists at the University of Southern California say they've detected a link between recreational marijuana use and a greater chance among males in their early teens through their mid-30s of contracting a particularly dangerous form of testicular cancer -- non-seminoma tumors, according to a small study published today online in CANCER, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Cancer Society.

"The group that is at risk for developing these tumors is overwhelmingly young men. They should be looking and paying attention to changes in their testicles anyway," said Victoria Cortessis, one of the study's authors and an assistant professor of preventive medicine at the Keck School of Medicine of USC in Los Angeles.

Further, the fellas' weed intake "might be something they would want to mention to their usual health-care provider."

Cortessis and her colleagues analyzed the self-reported recreational drug use of 163 young men who had been diagnosed with testicular cancer. Among those patients who acknowledged indulging in pot, just over half (51 percent) told medical researchers they puffed or ingested cannabis more than once per week.

The team then compared the illegal drug histories of those 163 afflicted men with the lifestyle habits of 292 healthy men of the same age and ethnicity. Inside the data, they saw that men who had used marijuana recreationally were twice as likely to develop mixed-germ-cell tumors, including the deadlier non-seminona tumors. (The 292 unaffected men were "sampled" from the same neighborhoods in which the ill men had lived at the time of their diagnoses, Cortessis said.)

"These tumors usually occur in younger men and carry a somewhat worse prognosis" than other types of testicular cancer, the study reported. Moreover, the USC findings confirmed two previous reports in CANCER of an apparent link between marijuana use and cancer of the testicles, the researchers noted.

Still, the rate of such cancers occurring in men is relatively low: There is a lifetime risk of slightly more than 1 percent, Cortessis said.

"The truth is, the vast majority of men who develop testicular germ-cell tumors survive them. There's still a small proportion that don't. Those guys tend to have non-seminonas, unfortunately," Cortessis said. "But also, non-seminomas require more extensive treatment, including radiation and chemotherapy.

"We're not concerned only with preventing non-seminomas so that the malignancy doesn't harm the man, but we're also concerned about the later health effects for men that may be related to the more-aggressive therapy" (such as chemo), she added.
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So, why would weed wield such woes for some cojones in some dudes?

The USC scientists are unsure exactly what internal glitches marijuana may trigger that could cause cancer. But they speculate that the process may begin in the body's endocannabinoid system, which is the cellular network that responds to the active ingredient in marijuana. That same system has been shown to be vital in the formation of sperm. The study was was funded by the National Cancer Institute.

The researchers also invested a few words of their report to speak directly to the young men living in the 17 states where medicinal marijuana is legal, stating: "The findings suggest that the potential cancer-causing effects of marijuana on testicular cells should be considered not only in personal decisions regarding recreational drug use, but also when marijuana and its derivatives are used for therapeutic purposes."

At medical marijuana dispensaries in Washington state and California, that stance not surprisingly drew swift retorts.

At the Harborside Health Center in Oakland, the proprietors read the USC study on Friday afternoon, then promptly emailed to NBC News a news link to a recent study in Madrid in which cannabis was found to be a cancer fighter.

"The LA study stands in contrast to several recent studies which have found that cannabis actually has cancer fighting properties," said Steve DeAngelo, co-founder of Harborside. "The LA study is reporting a correlation, as opposed to a causal connection between cannabis use and the cancers. It is a well-established scientific principle that correlation does not equal causality.

"I would also note that the sample size is quite small," DeAngelo added, "and the size of the control group is double that of the cannabis users."

Two states to the north, at Seattle's Northwest Patient Resource Center, chief executive John Davis argued that any person taking therapeutic drugs should know that all of those otherwise beneficial substances carry some health hazards.

"And with a lot of them," Davis said, "the risk is death.

"If you're using (marijuana) medicinally, you should understand the risks and the benefits, just like any other therapy," Davis added. "Marijuana, in general, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances on Earth. Can it have some side effects? Yeah. But compared to pharmaceutical drugs, those side effects are much less."
 
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