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    Quote Originally Posted by CannonFairy View Post
    When I heard the news, the first name that came up to my mind is Eric Tan.
    Not necessarily so. Could be more than one though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDragon View Post
    Not necessarily so. Could be more than one though.
    It sounds like there are more unhappy members in WP?

    Years ago, I had a staff who misappropriated company fund - not a huge amount. Despite her seniority and years in the company, I terminated her and she left in a sour mood. She called me days later and demanded me to pay her a certain amount or else she would report my company for using counterfeit computer software. I asked her to go ahead. Nothing happened in the end.

    Even Yaw Shin Leong's apology letter to the media at a crucial time came as a shock to me, it is damaging and serves to remind Singaporeans the misjudgement of character from LTK. I see it as Yaw's way of challenging LTK and WP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CannonFairy View Post
    It sounds like there are more unhappy members in WP?

    Years ago, I had a staff who misappropriated company fund - not a huge amount. Despite her seniority and years in the company, I terminated her and she left in a sour mood. She called me days later and demanded me to pay her a certain amount or else she would report my company for using counterfeit computer software. I asked her to go ahead. Nothing happened in the end.

    Even Yaw Shin Leong's apology letter to the media at a crucial time came as a shock to me, it is damaging and serves to remind Singaporeans the misjudgement of character from LTK. I see it as Yaw's way of challenging LTK and WP.

    Not too sure if there are more unhappy WP members. Some could be genuinely unhappy. Some TOLD to speak and act unhappy!

    But I am 100% certain the leak was done with the FULL knowledge and concurrence of TCH. Revealing such a sensitive piece of document is no straightforward matter. I visualise many meetings held to discuss the pros and cons of doing so and only with the approval of TCH, as Minister of HA would this be cleared. Many consequences to expect.

    This whole episode demonstrates that some political parties will do whatever it takes to remain in power. Whether they sincerely believe their coming forward to serve is noble or materialistic in nature, only they themselves can answer this question. Politics, in the words of don't-know-who, is war without bloodshed and war is politics with bloodshed. I think it was Mao who said this.

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    [QUOTE=CannonFairy;1084091]

    Years ago, I had a staff who misappropriated company fund - not a huge amount. Despite her seniority and years in the company, I terminated her and she left in a sour mood. She called me days later and demanded me to pay her a certain amount or else she would report my company for using counterfeit computer software. I asked her to go ahead. Nothing happened in the end.
    QUOTE]

    Your staff should have gone on her knees and thank you for not reporting her to the police. CBT as a servant not only fine. If I am not sala, includes jail term. Simple CBT likely baru fine.

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    I don't think this Wikileaks is carried out by a single Assange. Sinkies too ball-less to walk alone. It smells like a concerted act, with an invisible hand ghosting in from somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seee3
    There are so many in WP. Why name her? Not a wise move.
    From Kinana, whatever he/she says, please take the inverse meaning.

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    I am checking if the CEC minute consider a confidential document? If so, would the leak constitutes a criminal breach of trust which WP can take legal action against the culprit whom is not difficult for them to track down.....

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    hey loser, you can bet huat ah will be in parliament and you will still continue with your shake head in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto View Post
    I am checking if the CEC minute consider a confidential document? If so, would the leak constitutes a criminal breach of trust which WP can take legal action against the culprit whom is not difficult for them to track down.....

    The Registry of Societies (ROS) administers the Societies Act and Regulations. ROS is currently a unit under the Ministry of Home Affairs and is located at ICA Building. The role of ROS is to:

    a) Administer the Societies Act & Regulations
    b) Establish and administer a repository of documents and information submitted by registered societies and provide access to the public to such documents and information

    ROS performs the following five main operational functions:

    a) Processing applications for registration of new societies;
    b) Processing applications for change of name, place of business, amendments to rules and use of symbols by registered societies,
    c) De-register societies which become defunct or inactive,
    d) Dissolving societies which wish to wind-up voluntarily; and
    e) Ensuring that registered societies meet the statutory requirements under the Societies Act and regulations


    what is all this talk of MOles??? some people can be so drama queen.... *glance at scoobal direction*

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    How come this time Go Missing Shells didn't accuse me of doing so.

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    Nice try but no cigar. That bloke resigned at that meeting. So he wouldn't have been sent a copy of the minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by sense View Post
    It is obvious to me. That person (1) has a copy of the minutes as he was entitled to it (2) has a huge axe to grind.

    The irony for him is that if his ego was moderated and if he really want to serve the community and stayed on, he would most likely be the choice for this by-election.

    People should recall that prior to the GE, almost every WP person spitted on the NCMP (see http://sensesg.multiply.com/journal/..._Self_Interest), but when they are given the option, you start to see everyone fighting over it - Just humans.


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    Nice try but no cigar. Committee minutes are not submitted to the ROS/MHA.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocoli View Post
    The Registry of Societies (ROS) administers the Societies Act and Regulations. ROS is currently a unit under the Ministry of Home Affairs and is located at ICA Building. The role of ROS is to:

    a) Administer the Societies Act & Regulations
    b) Establish and administer a repository of documents and information submitted by registered societies and provide access to the public to such documents and information

    ROS performs the following five main operational functions:

    a) Processing applications for registration of new societies;
    b) Processing applications for change of name, place of business, amendments to rules and use of symbols by registered societies,
    c) De-register societies which become defunct or inactive,
    d) Dissolving societies which wish to wind-up voluntarily; and
    e) Ensuring that registered societies meet the statutory requirements under the Societies Act and regulations


    what is all this talk of MOles??? some people can be so drama queen.... *glance at scoobal direction*

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass888 View Post
    Nice try but no cigar. Committee minutes are not submitted to the ROS/MHA.
    i dunno who is the mole but its definitely not Dr John Yam, he doesnt even bother to turn out for the meeting

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocoli

    The Registry of Societies (ROS) administers the Societies Act and Regulations. ROS is currently a unit under the Ministry of Home Affairs and is located at ICA Building. The role of ROS is to:
    b) Establish and administer a repository of documents and information submitted by registered societies and provide access to the public to such documents and information
    What are the documents that go into the repository? Are ordinary, routine minutes of meetings required to be submitted to ROS? I seriously doubt so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto View Post
    I am checking if the CEC minute consider a confidential document? E]If so, would the leak constitutes a criminal breach of trust which WP can take legal action against the culprit whom is not difficult for them to track down.....

    Let them conduct an investigation all they want? How to catch? Use lie detector? Yaw is away, how to check? Sylvia and Low subject to check?

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    Who can it be?
    He claim he is still a member of WP
    It seem the person is from chinese speaking background
    Is the person from CEC
    Poh Lee Guan? Chen Show Mao?




    刘程强前晚在群众大会上说,泄漏工人党会议记录给媒体的匿名人士是要陷害工人党,并指这是一个经过计算的举 措。

    针对刘程强的这番谈话,这个匿名人士在接受《我报》的电邮访问时说,这或许是一次经过计算的举措,但是,他 的目的不是要陷害工人党。

    他说,他在决定这么做之前,也曾经内心挣扎许久。他这么做是不希望工人党和刘程强再次“送错人 ”进国会。
    害怕身份被揭穿

    记者:你认为,工人党已经猜测到你的身份吗?

    匿名者:如果他们知道我是谁,我为自己感到害怕,不过,我不认为他们知道我是谁。
    不打算退出工人党

    记者:你在之前寄给报馆的电邮中说,你对工人党过去几个月的事情感到失望,那你是否有考虑过要 退出工人党?

    匿名者:我不打算辞去党籍。我要让党员们知道,尤其是党内的领导层和议员们知道,有人在监督着他们,审视着 他们的言行举止、一举一动。如果他们想像方荣发那样,说话不诚实,那他们必定会被揭穿。
    不希望刘程强 又“送错人”进国会

    记者:为什么你不干脆就站出来?

    匿名者:工人党排斥批评他们、批评他们的领导层或议员的人。你不需要是党内的一分子也能看出这点。你看看网 络上如何抹黑那些曾经对工人党提出批评的人。我只是一个没有胆识的人,我经不起那种轰炸。我只是觉得,自己 应该督促工人党,让它更专注于它的任务。

    刘程强说,我这么做是在陷害工人党,这点我不认同。这或许是一次经过计算的举措,但目的不是要陷害工人党。 我很清楚这么做会造成什么影响,但是,现在,我宁可方荣发输了这场选战,也不希望工人党和刘程强必须再次承 受“送错人进国会”的打击。我在决定这么做之前,内心也曾经挣扎过许久。

    可是,我们的秘书长刘程强把所有的赌注都放在方荣发身上来保他。如果方荣发真的当选,他以后可 能会后悔。
    谎言被揭穿时 方荣发措手不及

    记者:方荣发说,“非选区议员”一事,是他遣词用字含糊所造成的混淆和误会,你能够接受他的解 释吗?

    匿名者:方荣发的说辞并不含糊。他是要站在道德的制高点上、试图要展现勇敢的一面,来回应张志贤对他的评语 ,他因此而撒谎。被揭发时,他措手不及,企图改变自己的说词,希望能脱身。

    揭秘目的:阻不诚实者进国会

    记者:自去年大选后,工人党内部是否存在着一些紧张的关系?

    匿名者:我不想针对党内部的情况置评。我的目的是不要让不诚实、没有诚信的人进入国会。

    我也要让人们知道,工人党内部也是有人在监督他们的。不过,这不代表工人党内部出现不团结的情 况。

    我所做的,并不是为我个人的利益,也没有个人的动机和目的。很简单的,我是要保持党内干净,消除不诚实的行 为。

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    Quote Originally Posted by alantan27 View Post
    匿名者:方荣发的说辞并不含糊。他是要站在道德的制高点上、试图要展现勇敢的一面,来回应张志贤对他的评语 ,他因此而撒谎。被揭发时,他措手不及,企图改变自己的说词,希望能脱身。
    沒錯!他的說辭一點也不含糊,動機顯而易見。

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    This saga seems more and more exciting.Will be camping for more news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDragon View Post
    But I am 100% certain the leak was done with the FULL knowledge and concurrence of TCH. Revealing such a sensitive piece of document is no straightforward matter. I visualise many meetings held to discuss the pros and cons of doing so and only with the approval of TCH, as Minister of HA would this be cleared. Many consequences to expect.
    Was this cleared with Cabinet or did TCH act on his own?
    Sincere advice to PM Lee - You need to heal the PAP. The only way you can do this is announce your retirement and pave the way for a new leader to take your place.

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    Sylvia Lim, being the chairman kept so quiet about this affair, she is highly suspicious.

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