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SG Has Worst Doctor-to-Population Ratio in the World. Yet Ministers Have Highest Pay!

Leongsam

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So what the hell are you doing in New Zealand???

Enjoying the peace and solitude, a great climate and fantastic fishing.
 

kopiuncle

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No mention of cycling? I m envious of you. :p

good morning my dearest IHP
how are you today
have you taken your breakfast
hope your day today and everyday is a great day
may heaven and earth bless you and all your friends
cheers!!! yamseng!!!!!
pls don't be mad today okay...muah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Asterix

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You'd be singing a different tune if your baby died at birth because of inadequate healthcare.

The increased risk of this happening in Sinkieland is one of the reasons why I have decided to upgrade to a first world country. :p:biggrin:
 
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bakkuttay

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wahlau, ilovesingapore really goes in a frenzy to see it 20cm long and 10cm wide.

tell you in next post after your next response.......



good morning my dearest IHP
how are you today
have you taken your breakfast
hope your day today and everyday is a great day
may heaven and earth bless you and all your friends
cheers!!! yamseng!!!!!
pls don't be mad today okay...muah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you want my answer, chinchai lah, here it is

a ten thousand dollare note
 

xebay11

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Enjoying the peace and solitude, a great climate and fantastic fishing.

You rather trade living under the world's best government with that? Then you should blame the PAP from transforming Singapore from fishing village to where we are now, you can enjoy peace and solitude, and fantastic fishing living in a fishing village.
 

ILoveIHP

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good morning my dearest IHP
how are you today
have you taken your breakfast
hope your day today and everyday is a great day
may heaven and earth bless you and all your friends
cheers!!! yamseng!!!!!
pls don't be mad today okay...muah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have taken my breakfast but have you taken your medicine? :rolleyes:
 

Leongsam

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You rather trade living under the world's best government with that? Then you should blame the PAP from transforming Singapore from fishing village to where we are now, you can enjoy peace and solitude, and fantastic fishing living in a fishing village.

When Singapore had peace and solitude, I had to shit in a bucket shared by 50 other people.

Life is all about compromise. No one place has everything you want in life.

Those who want to make their fortunes should live in Singapore. Those who have made their millions and want to spend their retirement years enjoying the great outdoors should move to NZ.
 

escher

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When Singapore had peace and solitude, I had to shit in a bucket shared by 50 other people.

Well said!

I up your points.

But try for consistency when you lie.
You used to say shared by 50 families and now improved to 50 other people
 
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kopiuncle

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I have taken my breakfast but have you taken your medicine? :rolleyes:

I have taken my lunch and now enjoying my afternoon tea with prc chiobus
I hope you have a wonderful and successful day at the casinos and horses....Good Luck ...muah!!!!!!
 

peppertail

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First, i don't see Singapore in the last spot. Second, Greece is best??? :smile: Watched the news lately?

And what does doctor to population ration has to do with ministers pay??
 
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Asterix

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First, i don't see Singapore in the last spot. Second, Greece is best??? :smile: Watched the news lately?

And what does doctor to population ration has to do with ministers pay??

First, we haven't crossed swords in a long time, after your credibility problem caused inter alia by your dubious assumption that flood water is clear; posting your own rep sheet and passing it off as mine; etc. Let's cross swords more often!

Second, don't pick and choose. First world countries with doctor to population ratios greater than 3.33 to 1,000 are:

Denmark 3.42
France 3.45
Italy 3.49
Germany 3.6
Israel 3.65 (yes, even when surrounded by enemies, one can have coalition governments since 1948 and a world class healthcare system to boot, just make sure you don't have dumbfuck leaders like Ass Loon and Toothprick Lim)
Sweden 3.77
Switzerland 4.07
Norway 4.16
Austria 4.85

Sinkieland's ratio is a miserable 1.83 to 1,000!

Sie dumm fuhrt and :kma:
 
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kopiuncle

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Hi Dr Asterix, there is no need to cross swords over such an issue. Like I've said before, the number of doctors is only one of the many standard criteria to assess the healthcare system of a country. I do not possess such profound knowledge and figures. But I think the quality of medical care is more important : the quality of the doctors and also the educational status of the patients.

You can have the best doctors available, but if there is no compliance and understanding of their own illnesses and treatment, the standard of medical care will not be good too. If patients stll believe in voodo medicine and in esoteric treatments,despite the availability of good quality doctors, the result is still bad.

Singapore was doing well until lately the massive influx of New Citizens had somehow caused some problems not only to our Healthcare System but also to our socio-economic-political lifestyles. We had in fact regressed somewhat in several areas.But the good thing is that we are catching up and we are trying very hard to correct this sudden disruption of our smooth system here.

Overall,my humble assessment of our healthcare system is one that is affordable and has attained a high standard of medical care and treatment. We have one of the best doctoring system in the world and I think we will continue to improve on the ration.Our ordinary citizens have easy assess to doctors in their neighbourhoods and they do not need to make any appointments at all.They are free to choose to see any doctor unlike other countries where you have to book an appointment and you have to stick to your chosen doctor ( a good system , nevertheless. but sometimes, the appointment to see a particular doctor can be rather daunting....)

And we cannot compare ourselves with those Scandinavian countries simply because we are so different in many ways. Culturally, historically and economically, we are so different. They are among the richest countries in the world with rich and almost unlimited resources and with very sparse population which is almost homogeneous. But recent influx of immigrants and foreign workers has caused many social problems. The medical system has somehow also suffered as a result of this influx of New Citizens.

Singapore will learn from their experiences and I am sure we will improve on our system.

Thank you Dr Asterix for your kind comments.
 

Asterix

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Hi Dr Asterix, there is no need to cross swords over such an issue. Like I've said before, the number of doctors is only one of the many standard criteria to assess the healthcare system of a country. I do not possess such profound knowledge and figures. But I think the quality of medical care is more important : the quality of the doctors and also the educational status of the patients.

Educational status of the patients? Trying to shift the blame to citizens, I don’t think they are that daft any more. The older generation have children who are relatively well educated. Besides, one does not need to be highly educated to follow instructions from healthcare personnel, provided such personnel bothered to give clear explanations and guidance in a language which the patient understands.

You can have the best doctors available, but if there is no compliance and understanding of their own illnesses and treatment, the standard of medical care will not be good too. If patients stll believe in voodo medicine and in esoteric treatments,despite the availability of good quality doctors, the result is still bad.

If for a start you have limited number of good doctors to treat the local populace, promoting Peesai Island as a medical hub for foreigners with means from the four corners of this earth is a monumental mistake! Donald Tsang tried to promote Hong Kong as a medical hub and met with resistance and rightfully so. Leung has dropped the idea of the Fragrant Harbour as a medical hub shortly after coming to power.

When foreigners are willing to pay sky high prices for healthcare and there is no restriction on the purchase of such services, good doctors and nurses will move to higher paying jobs in private hospitals causing a shortage in public hospitals. These public hospitals are then forced to recruit doctors and nurses with questionable qualifications from Third World countries. Thus in this manner, the quality of healthcare for the local populace is compromised. All under the watch of MiniSTARS who are paid OUT OF THIS WORLD salaries.

Singapore was doing well until lately the massive influx of New Citizens had somehow caused some problems not only to our Healthcare System but also to our socio-economic-political lifestyles. We had in fact regressed somewhat in several areas.But the good thing is that we are catching up and we are trying very hard to correct this sudden disruption of our smooth system here.

In other words, the Scums in White screwed up big time. Why should they be allowed to continue screwing up especially when they were reluctant to acknowledge the existence of problems in the first place.

Overall,my humble assessment of our healthcare system is one that is affordable and has attained a high standard of medical care and treatment. We have one of the best doctoring system in the world and I think we will continue to improve on the ration.Our ordinary citizens have easy assess to doctors in their neighbourhoods and they do not need to make any appointments at all.They are free to choose to see any doctor unlike other countries where you have to book an appointment and you have to stick to your chosen doctor ( a good system , nevertheless. but sometimes, the appointment to see a particular doctor can be rather daunting....)

Bald and unsubstantiated statements such as these do not impress the peasants any more. They will draw conclusions as to whether Sinkieland’s healthcare system is good or bad or has deteriorated significantly based on their own experience and those of their friends, neighbours and loved ones. Judging from the posts here and elsewhere on the net, coffee shop talk, conversations with friends, etc their verdict is clear – Sinkieland’s healthcare standards have deteriorated markedly for the ordinary citizen who uses public hospitals.

And we cannot compare ourselves with those Scandinavian countries simply because we are so different in many ways. Culturally, historically and economically, we are so different. They are among the richest countries in the world with rich and almost unlimited resources and with very sparse population which is almost homogeneous. But recent influx of immigrants and foreign workers has caused many social problems. The medical system has somehow also suffered as a result of this influx of New Citizens.

Why not? Scandinavians do not have two eyes, one nose, a beating heart, et cetera. Sinkieland is not poor. The reserves are how many billions? How many billions were lost punting on banks which are too big to fail?

Singapore will learn from their experiences and I am sure we will improve on our system.

Idle promises to improve will fail to impress increasingly demanding and educated citizens. In what specific ways are they going to improve? By when will these targets be met? How will they measure success or failure objectively? For a start, a healthcare ombudsman will help to whip these jokers into shape! And a change of governing party in 2016 will not hurt.
 
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kopiuncle

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Wow Dr Asterix, that was a monumental thesis. I gave you A* for your wonderful essay. You could have scored better and with more credibility if you could only stop using terms like sinkieland and peesai. Can I assume that you WERE a doctor working in Singapore and now you are Retired in Australia?

There are some patients in Singapore who are still very naive and ignorant and I must agree with you that we should have doctors who are more patients-centred rather than money-centred. Thank you.

I respect your views and I hope those in charge will take up what you have just posted. Thank you.
 

singveld

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more doctors for what?
america have the most lawyers in the whole world. so does that mean USA has the best legal system?
 

Asterix

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Wow Dr Asterix, that was a monumental thesis. I gave you A* for your wonderful essay. You could have scored better and with more credibility if you could only stop using terms like sinkieland and peesai. Can I assume that you WERE a doctor working in Singapore and now you are Retired in Australia?
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Satyr

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http://www.bloomberg.com/visual-data/best-and-worst/most-efficient-health-care-countries

As you can see, Singapore is up there with the best. Life expectancy is one of the highest too.

Congratulations to the PAP for doing such a fantastic job. The ministers deserve every cent they earn plus more.

Yes our ministers are the best. Singapore has the optimal number of doctors for the long term plans of the government. If you have too many doctors the cost of medical treatment comes down. This will enable too many of the weak, the destitute chronic sick and the penurious elderly to gain access to medical treatment to prolong their miserable existence and lower the tone of the country. This way, those who do not deserve to live will perish quickly. This is truly an intelligent group of leaders. They think far far ahead and they can see around corners.
 
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