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Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges

highroller777

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How come job specs doesn't include gambling experience?? If you have to learn the games it's hard to check on the cons as you need to be one step ahead of the pros.
 

Kia0042

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Talking about perks, here's is the different between RWS and MBS.

RWS doesn't give you free stay, free dinning voucher, free concert ticket, etc.... but in return they give you higher payback from slot games and earn higher Genting dollars. For every 10 points you earned, you receive $22.50 Genting dollars with extra bonus credits of $2.50. Whereas MBS is giving away free hotel stays each month, promotional games that require you to hit certain points to redeem the vouchers, free concert tickets, etc. but every 10 points you earned, you only receive $15 Sands dollars with $7.50 extra bonus even for a Paiza Gold member.

When you do a calculation, every 1000points you earned, you get $2,250 Genting dollars, while MBS only gives $1,500 Sands dollars. Imagine you earn 4,000 points monthly at RWS, you received $3,000 more than MBS, this different is enough for you pay for 3 nights suite rooms at Crockford Tower (not 2 night comp stays at MBS normal room) or fine dinning for 20 persons at Feng Shui Inn or the entire row of seats for a concert. RWS is returning the perks in terms of NN slot credits/NN clips which is much practical, however many players did not appreciated or maybe did not notice it.
 
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Kia0042

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This is the text message I received from my MBS host, apparently, they downgraded the point systems to all cards. Paiza gold card used to earn at least x2 or x2.5 rate, too bad not anymore these days.
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aurvandil

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CRA officers have no jurisdiction to investigate vice or illegal money lending. Their role is solely for enforcement of the CCA, especially with regard to the provisions of not having persons associated with the triads involved in casino operations. Vice and illegal money lending are managed separately by SPF.

Both casinos and department stores are actually private properties of the owners.
So security matters are the responsibility of the owners. In the case of the department store if shoplifting is involved the police would be called and the person would be charged under the Penal Code. In the case of the casinos its operation is government by the CRA. So CRA officers whether seconded from the SPF is a necessary part in the casino operation. However in sensitive area like Geylang the Vice squad would have a special interest there. In the casino the sensitive areas would be Triad and Money Laundering. I am sure the CRA is written widely for the Gang squad and the Commercial Crime Dept. to have a special interest there.
 

slotmania

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Today's visit to RWS was real scary I mean the 5k 10c machine was the most thirsty machine I ever played! Hardly any triggers or poor payout and soon I was down $9k! :(
Had no choice but to give up. Then WD $2k to try 5k 5c machine. This too swallowed $1.7k making it almost $11k damage. Fought with this machine and it gave several good rounds of triggers, finally. Got back $6.7k. So final damage was $4.3k instead of $11k :biggrin:
Phew!
 

Kia0042

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The last 3 days of Sept were disaster for me, lost over 10k and finally able to make a recovery of $3.5k this morning. The lost mainly contributed to the 5cts FFF machines, frankly speaking I was tempted by the major prize pool which never hit over 30k. I chased for 3 days and I have given up. I saw the major prize still there this morning and nobody win it yet, it have crossed 50k. Imagine how many players have been killed chasing the major! Painful lesson learnt and reminded me once again that I SHOULD NEVER NEVER chase after JP again!

This morning, I didn't touch FFF and just considered on the 2cts 5K and 5D machines behind FFF, after 2 hours of playing I gain nothing but only points. Then I proceeded to 722 slot area and there I managed to pick up a few hundred dollars winning from each machine. Almost all the 2cts 5K or 5D machines that I played, I hit a FH Cai or Fish ! but because I picked 20FS and even 25FS, I only hit the x5 or x3 multiplier and one of the 5K machine even gave me twice FH cai x3! In total, I had hit 4x FH Cai, 3x FH Fish and 1 FH Lion today with 300cr bet (2cts) and all these happened within the last 1.5hr I had hence returned home with my winning at 6AM.
 

Kia0042

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Today's visit to RWS was real scary I mean the 5k 10c machine was the most thirsty machine I ever played! Hardly any triggers or poor payout and soon I was down $9k! :(
Had no choice but to give up. Then WD $2k to try 5k 5c machine. This too swallowed $1.7k making it almost $11k damage. Fought with this machine and it gave several good rounds of triggers, finally. Got back $6.7k. So final damage was $4.3k instead of $11k :biggrin:
Phew!

Feeding a machine with 9k is a lot man, I think it is really necessary for us to learn and remember when to give up a machine, when it doesn't pay, it simply means it will not pay and why do we have to be so stubborn over it and make ourselves full of frustration? We visit the casino to have fun and win money and not suppose to let the machine fill us with frustration.
 

Mindless

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Today's visit to RWS was real scary I mean the 5k 10c machine was the most thirsty machine I ever played! Hardly any triggers or poor payout and soon I was down $9k! :(
Had no choice but to give up. Then WD $2k to try 5k 5c machine. This too swallowed $1.7k making it almost $11k damage. Fought with this machine and it gave several good rounds of triggers, finally. Got back $6.7k. So final damage was $4.3k instead of $11k :biggrin:
Phew!

Hi. Your tolerance level is very high. Luckily you managed to reduce damage. Phew.
Good luck.
 

slotmania

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Feeding a machine with 9k is a lot man, I think it is really necessary for us to learn and remember when to give up a machine, when it doesn't pay, it simply means it will not pay and why do we have to be so stubborn over it and make ourselves full of frustration? We visit the casino to have fun and win money and not suppose to let the machine fill us with frustration.

It is like being rooted and glued to the chair! I had to walkaway after $9k lost due to the atm daily limit. Only then LL walked away. Then WD from another atm and tried a different machine.

Must learn my mistake, maybe set $2k to a single machine limit and walk away?
 

Kia0042

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$2 ~2.5k is a good limit for a 5cts/10cts/20cts denom machine and what I experienced so far is when the machine wants to pay, it doesn't even require more than $300 input.

Bro Slotmania, it is very RISKY to carry atm cards to casino wor. Up till today, I never bring my atm with me, always leave them at home/office because I know my game will be endless if I have cards with me.... kena a few times over the past few years, with atm cards with me, I will go crazy chasing after lost, I even play table games which I don't even understand the rules, or roulette by betting 1-2k per hand, that few times killed me badly and I always ensure that my cards are not in my pocket or inside the car.
 

slotmania

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$2 ~2.5k is a good limit for a 5cts/10cts/20cts denom machine and what I experienced so far is when the machine wants to pay, it doesn't even require more than $300 input.

Bro Slotmania, it is very RISKY to carry atm cards to casino wor. Up till today, I never bring my atm with me, always leave them at home/office because I know my game will be endless if I have cards with me.... kena a few times over the past few years, with atm cards with me, I will go crazy chasing after lost, I even play table games which I don't even understand the rules, or roulette by betting 1-2k per hand, that few times killed me badly and I always ensure that my cards are not in my pocket or inside the car.

bro Kia, thanks for the advise. Normally my habit is I don't carry much cash. So I will withdraw from RWS atm. Maybe another way is to carry say $3k in my pocket before hand and keep my cards at home?

The lady manager who recently upgraded my membership to mp, when I asked her to check when can I qualify for CF, she checked and said at of now I have 8,000+ points in the system and for CF the points must hit 15,000. She then mentioned things like the person's name must be put up for management recommendations etc, making it sounds so exclusive. I only asked and one of the CF's privileges is free buffet at the CF. Well, if qualify sure makan there :smile:
 

highroller777

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from pple i know if u annual levy continuous since RWS open or since over the last 3-4 yrs , have been going regular say few x per week, accumulated 5-10k points u CF alrdy; all the BS about management review, exclusive, invite only all Big BS make u feel good.
 

slotmania

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from pple i know if u annual levy continuous since RWS open or since over the last 3-4 yrs , have been going regular say few x per week, accumulated 5-10k points u CF alrdy; all the BS about management review, exclusive, invite only all Big BS make u feel good.

Bro, totally agree with the BS feel good factor. That is why I said the only tangible benefit is x1.8 points which can be used for immediate slot play and vouchers.
 

JohnTKS

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CRA officers have no jurisdiction to investigate vice or illegal money lending. Their role is solely for enforcement of the CCA, especially with regard to the provisions of not having persons associated with the triads involved in casino operations. Vice and illegal money lending are managed separately by SPF.

Yes the CRA has no jurisdiction for offences under the Penal Code. But the casinos are private properties just like your house. Unless the SPF has a warrant to enter your house or you invited them into your house for cause they cannot enter your house otherwise. Special provisions would have to be written into the CRA for the relevant SPF dept. access to the casinos at all times. The SPF and not the CRA would have jurisdiction over the triads matters.
 
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highroller777

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Bro, totally agree with the BS feel good factor. That is why I said the only tangible benefit is x1.8 points which can be used for immediate slot play and vouchers.

Looking at it, plat is the best as it gets vip parking unlike normal gold still b1 parking; CF not much diff other than the x 2.25 vs 1.8; buffet no big deal too as plat also have; not sure whether CF is subjected to 'downgrading' as it has no point target compared w plat at 4500 per year.
 

Kia0042

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Looking at it, plat is the best as it gets vip parking unlike normal gold still b1 parking; CF not much diff other than the x 2.25 vs 1.8; buffet no big deal too as plat also have; not sure whether CF is subjected to 'downgrading' as it has no point target compared w plat at 4500 per year.

CF card requires to maintain 15,000 points per year.
If you are high roller, x2.25 and x1.8 makes a big difference. Every 1,000 pts earned by CF member is GD2,250 and Plat gets GD1,800 diff by GD450 and every 10,000 pts makes GD4,500 different. So, if a CF plays 20,000 pts per year, he has GD9,000 more than a plat which can get a free low end Rolex! Or purchase 18 pieces of Ralph Lauren shirts.
 

slotmania

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Today spent less than an hour on 5k 5c machine and hit a good payout of $7k :smile:
Run fast! In view of my last disastrous trip, with today's win, I made a small profit of $600 :biggrin:
Recovered all my $11k damage with a small winning phew!

So I went to Maxim counter wanted to redeem Sep vouchers. I was told by the counter gal no vouchers. Initially I thought my points were insufficient. But I told her that Sep was my record playing month est $60k play. She then told me Sep the voucher promotions ended! I flipped!

I requested to see a senior person. An assistant director lady with another who us my host manager saw me. I said rws rewards system sucks and said it is frustrating that my record month got no rewards. Blah blah
My host manager asked me to write down the feedback which I did. She tried to cool me down buying a set lunch. She said she agreed wit me Rws should be consistent in promotions.
 
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