I think you'd mistaken me from somebody else.
I am pro true pink Singaporeans FIRST, anti White Scums second. Dun think there is a "WP" in there.
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SDP will withdraw.
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I think you'd mistaken me from somebody else.
I am pro true pink Singaporeans FIRST, anti White Scums second. Dun think there is a "WP" in there.
alamak, at least disengage for their silent mode and open their mouth lor, issue a statement etc, at least shows that they care and concern on all these issues affecting the average sinkies... NOT shut the fuck up and sit down when told.
You want to know what's childish?
Childish is when you can say 40% of the people benefit, 100% of the people lose out, and you don't realise that 40% and 100% don't add up to 100%, and you still want to call other people confused.
Childish is when somebody else (not me) gives you a counterexample, and you spin an extremely convoluted story to show that you are "still right".
Honestly speaking, we need as many opposition members in parliament as possible. What is important is not how loud the voice is but how many would-be voices are there.
How really loud are these PAP voices in parliament? Not very loud. In fact a fair number are missing most of the time. And even if they are there, they could be silent. Compared to them, WP MPs are relatively vocal. Each usually has some questions to ask according to the specialization assigned to him. LTK seldom speaks nowadays because I believe he was assigned nothing. I guess if it is a question regarding his party he will speak up.
But when it comes to something that needs a vote, all these PAP voices will come across loud and clear and no opposition can block that decision. Unless that number exceeds one-third, then they can block some decisions but only the game changing ones. Today they are totally at the PAP's mercy.
The PAP can change things equivalent to not having to have any election. Although it might appear incredible, the power of the PM to decide whether to have a BE is very good example. You don't think it is possible for them to do away with General Elections every five years altogether? How about no need for GE if there is no referendum asking for it? Still democratic. Right? Except that it is very difficult to demonstrate it. Why are they not doing it? Because they fear the people. Even the 60.1% dafts, with the possible exception of our entertaining bro (or sis) Kinana, will object to this.
But today, they have the power to merge an SMC with a GRC without feeling great remorse because they know any misgiving of the voters will dissipate in the next five years and be totally forgotten. So don't say a single seat lost to the PAP for the opposition is nothing. It could be a single seat lost forever.
If SDP does not harm another party's seat while gaining its own, then they should be in parliament. But on the other hand, if they are just playing zero sum games, taking over somebody else's seats, then I rather they be replaced by a new party that can advance the Opposition cause of gaining one-third representation in parliament in the shortest time and eventually to a simple majority.
I don't think any party, opposition or the PAP should aim for more than two-third majority. Not only is it too greedy, it is not ethical as this clause is there to protect the rights of the minority. In a commercial contract, the equivalent clause is what is called the super-minority clause where the minority has a veto right.
I also want to challenge the PAP's concept of the parliament being a two sided debate: the ruling party versus the opposition. It should be a place where the best ideas should come from the whole parliamentary body itself especially when the majority margin gets closer to zero. You cannot just ignore the wishes of that large number of people. If such a parliamentary working were there in the first place, we would not have got into so many policy mishaps in recent years.
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With due respect this is stretching an argument to appear not to have lost it. If you think this type of market is better than the normal ones, why don't you suggest to the Fairprices, Cold Storages and Sheng Siongs of Singapore all to adopt this?
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I think you also have reading problem. Or something more serious.
Please get some professional help. You can definitely stop replying to me because I will not be able to help you.
omg!!! u become mp and other party manage the town council for u??? wah!!! u walk in front barefooted and others gotta carry your shoes for you? SDP really making voters giving up on them. i vote for u, u become my MP and got prob ask u. u ask me to as WP as they manage the town council? who would want to do for u??? wah really face palm! SDP really gone looney after Chee come back to take charge.
Too bad we have the British system, where the party who has the majority of parliament is also the party who forms the government cabinet. This is opposed to the American system where you directly elect the president, then the president appoints the cabinet, and sometimes one party has the president and the other party has parliament.
The Singapore parliament has always worked on a supermajority. The downside is that nobody will check the parliament if it makes a mistake. The upside is that decisions get made fast and with a minimum of fuss. I have never been in a situation where the parliament takes too long to make a decision and I honestly don't know if it's a simple decision.
Going back to the issue of the SDP - WP communications, I once thought that SDP was using the communications as a bluff to cover their backsides in the event of a three corner fight. I once thought that the spectre of a three corner fight was just a negotiating tactic. I did try to speak up for them and highlight some of the better things they did in the past.
I could not have imagined that they were so stupid to believe that it was possible for the WP to stand aside and let the SDP have a straight fight with the PAP.
http://www.singapolitics.sg/news/sdp-proposes-joint-campaign-wp
Chee, our resident anal-lyst GMS and the birdman professor can run a campaign together.
It will be interesting to see the looney antics that come out - one will go on hunger strike, one will talk cock sing song and be a media prostitute and one will teach his bird to say "fark you".
It will be interesting to see the looney antics that come out - one will go on hunger strike, one will talk cock sing song and be a media prostitute and one will teach his bird to say "fark you".
Ok I think with that, I can better understand where you are coming from.
Yes, sometimes I also feel that WP could, should and must be more vocal, cover more topics. But then again, with only 6+2 of them, they dun even have enough to assign 1 person to each ministry. The good thing is, with 6+2 now, I can see some of them are slowly focusing onto 1 or 2 specific areas. So maybe they just need more time?
Let's just say my comrades and I continue to have access to information. You can't be in party for decades and not have a network.
It was intended to showcase Low's "commitment" to "multiracism" and "multiculturalism". An overcompensation if you will. It succeeded in pulling the Malay and Indian conditional votes. But the Malays and Indians have woken up to what the Workers Party under Low is all about. Don't take my word for it. Ask around.
My old colleagues and I are getting by in age. We wanted to let bygones be bygones. If Singaporeans did indeed want a party led by the likes of Low to succeed, it was really up to them. However, we have observed that the WP SAPS half-brains, WP racists and WP "Guess the Race' bigots and Chinese chauvinists and supporters have clearly been emboldened by Low's electoral success. Their breathtaking arrogance and racial bigotry, if left unchecked, points to a troubled future for Singapore. This is not what the WP of the past under JBJ fought for or why some of us went to prison for.
We will start uploading all the documents and recordings we cleared from the office sometime in early/mid 2001 when LTK succeeded, to the joy of Lee Kuan Yew, in stabbing the back of his hated nemesis, JB Jeyaratnam. BTW, this is why you don't see the Singapore Prostitute Press harping on this as they have done so, on and on and on, along with and to the joy of the WP members, supporters and astroturfers, about CSJ and CST.
If you have attended the Low's WP rallies, you would have heard this low life, opportunistically and shamelessly, invoking the name of JBJ during his election speeches. Shameless may be too mild a word to describe this low life.
Sorry I am lost. Which of your comment is replying to which of mine?
Fairprice, Cold Storage, Sheng Shiong? The super/hypermarket scene? What did I say make you touch on that?
I realized the same recently. That's why I stopped engaging this chap. Either crazy or another PAP IB using new tricks.
At least now I know I'm not alone.
Go and read what Ptader wrote in post 189. If there is proof, then he will publicise it. In any case, I will not comment any further on Low Thia Khiang's alleged racist attitude.
You must be fairly young and not know the existence of scs (where GMS used to post as MADCOW) or the old sammyboy forum if you think this is "out of the blue".
By the way, try to connect the dots about WP Vincent Sear's post about my "anonymity".
Ref: http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?112041-Are-we-obsessed-with-Goh-Meng-Seng/page3
Someone needs to stand up for the Malay and Indian minorities against the racial bigotry of these WP SAPS' half-brains, WP racists and WP "Guess the Race' bigots. I don't want to take the credit for being the only Chinese to do so. There are others and I am thankful and grateful to them for defending and speaking up for the minorities against these bigots.
The problem for these WP racial bigots is that they can never believe that a Chinese would stand up, speak up and fight for the Malays, Indians or Eurasian minorities.
So when I take these bigots on and speak up in defence of the minorities, these WP chauvinists and bigots start foaming and frothing at their mouths and resort to their thoroughly racist and offensive labels of "shit skin", "m&d" etc to describe me because they think I must be either a Malay or an Indian.
And these are the people who are behind the WP (and who the WP happily relies upon for their votes) who are, no doubt, emboldened by the WP's electoral success, and who think they can actually treat the minorities with disrespect, absolute contempt and total disdain and with impunity.
My message to these WP racial bigots is : We will take you on.
As I said, you WP folks need to relax and calm down. If it is your "41% supporters", you will not have to worry about the SDP or anyone stealing any of your precious "41% supporters". Your "41% supporters" will stick with you and the SDP will be lose their deposits and be wiped out if they can't get any votes from the Desmond Lim's or PAP's camp.
WP chaps like you and your ilk have bragged and continue to brag that you all welcome competition. Competition, you all say, will help to establish, once and for all, the WP's dominance and show the other parties who is big, big boss. In the next breath, you WP folks start whinging when other parties want to contest. If you WP chaps are so confident, why are there flip-flops, fear and confusion about your stand and your "dominant" position?
Surely, you cannot be living in Lala land to not know that the conditional support you were given in Aljunied by the minorities is no longer there. And you must know that you will not win PE in a straight fight without the support of the minorities. So why the angst? Is that because, despite the outward bravado and proclamations of your "dominance", you fear the embarrassment if the SDP or anyone else showed the WP up?
Get a grip on yourselves.
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